“Are you alright?”
Nancy Drew (2019-2023), 4x08 - “The Crooked Bannister”
I didn’t think you would come.
sensing some unresolved issues
Oh, god, poor Arthur (also points for being fair, Tim).
SD Comic Con starts today!!! :D Normally I’d be even more excited, as this is one of my favorite times of the year and all the news we’d normally get, but with the strikes so many studios either pulled out or have now cancelled the panels they had there. Of course we’re still going to get news for actual comics/graphic novels, books, video games, animated movies/shows, and other fandoms that are there and a few TV shows/movies panels have changed to be focused more on their fans with the directors and producers there so there’s a chance we could still get some news from them. But it’s now where like how it normally is with everything there and those big Hall H panels as they’d unveil their slate for the next year.
Galadriel and Celeborn’s Uneasy Marriage
With the casting news about Celeborn, I wanted to share a couple of thoughts.
Tolkien is full of weird relationships. Most of the marriages in his stories are threaded through with a current of uneasiness at best, and sometimes a sense of deep tragedy. I’m not going to get into details here, but if anyone wants to start a thread analyzing all of the marriages in Tolkien, I’d participate, because with the exception of the hobbit marriages, most of them seem pretty messed up. Sometimes due to external circumstances, yes, but none of them end well.
Canonically, Galadriel and Celeborn fit right into this series of uneasy and somewhat tragic relationships. Look at the end of the Return of the King: in the chapter “Many Partings,” the hobbits ride out towards the Shire with Aragorn, Galadriel, and Celeborn. Here is the scene where they part with Aragorn:
Then Aragorn took leave of Celeborn and Galadriel, and the Lady said to him, “Elfstone, through darkness you have come to your hope, and have now all your desire. Use well the days.”
But Celeborn said: “Kinsman, farewell! May your doom be other than mine, and your treasure remain with you to the end.”
Clearly “all your desire” and “your treasure” refer to Arwen, and Celeborn here is explicitly stating that “your treasure remain[ing] with you to the end” would be different from Celeborn’s own doom, ie that his own “treasure” will not be with him to the end. It’s both poignant and also kind of catty and passive-aggressive of Celeborn to say this in front of his wife. Like “Let’s hope our granddaughter doesn’t leave her husband the way you’re leaving me.”
This interaction has always indicated to me that there is some kind of major rupture in Galadriel and Celeborn’s relationship. In a straight reading of the text, we can assume this refers to Galadriel’s intention to return to Valinor and Celeborn’s insistence on remaining for longer (if not indefinitely) in Middle Earth. This split is pretty clear across the text and is interesting in and of itself.
But if you throw a possible SauronxGaladriel subtext into the story, you can take this in all kinds of different directions, and still stay within the bounds of canon.
So just because Celeborn is suddenly on the scene in Rings of Power does not mean that Galadriel is bound for a happily-ever-after-eternal-marriage scenario. We know that there is tension and an effective separation at the end of all things, and we know Celeborn’s annoyed by the situation, and we know that Galadriel goes ahead and does her own thing anyway. This is not a sappy, happy couple. At the end of tale, canonically, she and her husband separate because they care about different things.
This is very true. Plus we need to add in the new things “Rings of Power” have added in with Celeborn likely having been held captive for all these years. He’s likely going to struggling with major PTSD after everything he went through either due to Adar or Sauron or whoever has had him for centuries. Then adding in she thought he had died and decided to not reincarnate like the elves normally do, which then in turned actually had her open up to falling in love with another man when she thought Halbrand was just a normal man. Then what she’s gone through with Halbrand/Sauron and us knowing how closely tied they are all the way through the end of the LOTR books/movies. It’s not going to be a happy marriage once they reunite as they have to get through all these obstacles, which we know they partly will when they have their daughter (as still certain she’s not born yet but will be on the show at some point). It is odd too that he stayed behind but that was also to be with Arwen, Elladan, Elrohir, and to help Aragorn too but it does suggest they still weren’t the same as their marriage was in the First Age.
Roger being an adorable, supportive, and loving malewife to his badass wife Brianna
Great episode!!!
You’ll be one and, baby, I’ll be two
Would you mind it if I said I’m into you?